---
title: 'Interview on the Rowshan Podcast'
subtitle: My conversation with Mehran Rowshan on the Rowshan Podcast, published on September 12, 2026.
date: '2026-09-12T12:00:00Z'
allDay: true
event: Rowshan Podcast
eventUrl: https://www.youtube.com/@MehranRowshan
tags:
- interviews
- podcast
- Rowshan Podcast
- education
- homeschooling
- Dubai
- artificial intelligence
- privacy
summary: 'My conversation with Mehran Rowshan on the Rowshan Podcast, "School Teaches Obedience, Not Intelligence": dropping out of school, dropping in on university, homeschooling, self-learning, Dubai, and AI privacy. (1h12m)'
abstract: 'My conversation with my friend Mehran Rowshan on the Rowshan Podcast. <br/><br/> We discussed why I dropped out of school in 7th grade and dropped in on university, what school actually teaches children and why I homeschool my own, why mathematical genius is mostly an illusion, how to teach yourself anything, how Dubai changed my mind, and what happens to everything you have already told an AI.'
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA
image: "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/artob/ar.to/master/src/content/talks/2026/09/rowshan-podcast.jpg"
---

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## Chapters

- [02:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=120s) Coding at 11 and Early Digital Currencies
- [04:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=240s) Who is Arto? Technology, Startups, and Moving to Dubai
- [05:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=305s) Why Dubai? Perspectives on Peace, Safety, and Growth
- [10:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=605s) The Miracle of Desalination and Overcoming Resource Scarcity
- [18:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=1120s) Freedom, Women's Safety, and Dispelling Western Myths
- [21:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=1300s) Great Man Theory of History
- [26:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=1600s) Nationalism, Global Immigration, and Finding Home
- [29:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=1766s) Dropping Out of School at 7th Grade: The Bureaucracy Hack
- [34:50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=2090s) Classical Education, Project-Based Learning, and Elon Musk's School
- [39:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=2370s) The Flaws of Modern Schooling: Obedience vs. True Intelligence
- [48:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=2925s) The Importance of Reading History and the Illusion of Mathematical Genius
- [55:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=3335s) AI Privacy, Chat Logs, and Separating Sci-Fi Myths from Reality
- [1:07:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcPr2weW6LA&t=4050s) Final Thoughts